In this episode of the Tractable podcast, Kshitij Grover, the cofounder and CTO of Orb, interviews Eric, the founder and CEO of Modal. They discuss Eric's technical background, his experience building a music recommendation system at Spotify, and his journey to founding Modal. The conversation delves into the challenges faced in the early days of Spotify, the evolution of serverless technology, and the unique approach taken by Modal in simplifying cloud deployments, especially focusing on data, AI, and machine learning workloads.